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Showing posts with label web standards. Show all posts
Showing posts with label web standards. Show all posts

"IE is being mean to me"

Promoting a comment, since it includes a musical performance of an original song (embedded below):

Anonymous said...

One of our developers wrote a song called "IE is being mean to me" and you can find the video here:

http://with.us/meanie
or
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTTzwJsHpU8

Hope you like it.


"IE is Being Mean to Me" is an original song written and performed by Scott Ward.

Register Frustration

Nestled in my feeds today, I found a quick little rant in the middle of a review of Wolfram's Alpha on The Register:

"Alpha is really good at telling you all sorts of information about mathematical expressions, showing you publicly available data about populations and geography, and comparing stock quotes. However, I am a software engineer by trade, and the information I need is about Python module documentation, Apache configuration, and why some fucking snippet of CSS won't fucking render in fucking Internet Explorer fucking 6. For someone like me (and in the web market, there are a lot of people like me), Alpha is breaking ground in a New Kind of Uselessness."
Emphasis and knowing smile mine.

Web Standards Shit List Update

Microsoft just keeps making this shit list better and better. We now get a chronological view of the 3,135 sites in an Excel sheet (hey, at least they released it - maybe one of these days they'll find out what the fuck HTML does), when they piss off enough of their users to make it onto the list, and when (and if) they beg Microsoft to remove them.

For the record, a few sites have already removed themselves from the list, most notably Flickr and Yahoo! (redundant, but still big enough in their own right that they can get separate mentions).

Efforts to wipe out this piece of shit we call IE6 continue

Bring Down IE 6: a campaign by .net magazine

"The premise is simple: Internet Explorer 6 is antiquated, doesn't support key web standards, and should be phased out. This isn't about being anti-Microsoft, it's about Microsoft's lack of development in the browser market. With IE7/8 not available for Windows 2000, IE6 accounts for up to 20% of web usage, primarily via business users. Clients pressure designers to 'force' sites to work in IE6, and designers, not wanting to lose business, comply, using hacks and workarounds. This wastes time and money. Microsoft needs to fix this, designers need to unite, and we all need to move on."

Bring Down IE 6 badge

Track the campaign

IE6: Do Not Want!

"This is all about the campaign to rid the WWW of Internet Explorer 6 that has devastated web developers and held back the evolution of everything that blocks the tubes for far too long. This can not go on any longer! Off with its head!

To raise awareness please send in tips to your major news sites about this campaign and use these tools to spread the word."
They've started keeping track of each country, site, and blog post they can find that tells everyone to ditch that broken piece of shit once and for all.

Because you can't use dick until IE expires

Catching up on things, so bear with me.

Alexis Deveria posted a great breakdown of when you can use various browser features and pieces of specs. In addition to confirming what we all know - IE fucking sucks - it also gives a good visual of when you can plan to start using given features based on your matrix of supported browsers, which will invariably include some version of IE. For many of us, that even includes the dinosaur itself, IE6.

A couple of highlights from the results:





If you notice anything amiss in the results, don't just fucking dismiss the whole thing - let Alexis know in the comments so he can fix it.

An update on compatibility view updates

The IEBlog just tried posting another round of "Okay, we'll say it again: we fucked up...but we've tried to make it up to you by switching to 'standards by default,'" trying to get people to quit posting the goddamn opt-in standards misinformation. This reminded me that I really need to check out that shit list of sites that both fail in IE8 and lack the "I fail in IE8" header. At first, I wondered about the legal issues of posting information from an XML file residing in a release candidate, and then I realized two things:

  1. I don't fucking care. I post this reasonably anonymously, so I would really have to stir up some shit in order for Microsoft to bother coming after me for something.
  2. Microsoft already posted the entire list (Google-rendered HTML from the fucking Excel sheet of the XML file - why the...? FUCK IT...moving on...), making any legal argument simply a figment of my whisky-addled mind.
So without further ado, let's talk about just a scant few of the 2396 domains. Yes, two thousand, three hundred, and ninety-fucking-six entries. So much for the plan of only making exceptions for sites in the top hundred (or even thousand) visited list.

Now, several of these, I think we all expected. I think if microsoft.com didn't make the list, we'd all pass out from shock. Others, like amazon.com, google.com, and yahoo.com, make sense simply because they get so many fucking hits every second that adding a single header would blow their bandwidth usage even more through the roof. They also have to put every single design/implementation change through a goddamn fucking gauntlet of tests and justifications before even considering rolling them out to the live site. Making changes for a piece of shit beta, or even a piece of shit release candidate, doesn't make sense. Microsoft will likely (hopefully) fix more of their shit before actually pushing IE8 off the back of the bus and out into the real world, which would just require more work for sites like Google and Yahoo, and a whole fuckton more pissed off users.

Before we move on to the shit list portion of this XML wonderland, I'd like to point out a few of the more amusing entries in the list:
  • thepiratebay.org - No particular reason, I just find it slightly amazing that enough Pirate Bay users use IE8 to warrant Microsoft adding the site to the "we don't want to piss off our users" list.
  • myspace.com - We already knew about this one, but still...what the fuck does a broken myspace page look like? How the fuck can you even tell?!
  • circuitcity.com - Because the "we went broke and no longer have a site, let alone a company" page renders incorrectly? What the fuck?
  • mozilla.com - This one should also appear in the shit list section of this post, since I know many developers at Mozilla capable of making the site work just fine for IE8. Instead, I decided to put this into the amusing section not because of the competition angle, but because opera.com does not appear in this list.
And now for the pure "what the fuck?!" entries of pure shit list glory:
  • adobe.com
  • apple.com
  • craigslist.org
  • facebook.com
  • flickr.com
  • sourceforge.net
  • twitter.com
  • wordpress.com
You guys have no excuse. I know some of you use a lot of bandwidth, but come on! Even fucking craigslist.org?! Either you guys have some serious IE hacks in your layouts, or you have a lot of users who just think your minimalist design looks like shit and kept hitting the "IE broke my internet" button. And twitter.com? You guys throw parties all the time, shit gold, and can't get a one-line "microblogging" web app to look right? I bet you want to sit in the "we get too many hits to change things for our users" list, but no. Yahoo and Google have so many fucking areas of business, they have damn good reason for not rendering everything correctly. You have one area of business, and more than enough talent and money to fix your shit.

Needless to say, I haven't exhausted this list of notable entries. Take a look for yourself and let me know if you find any more pure fucking gold.

Okay, bonus round: barackobama.com and johnmccain.com both make the list, but whitehouse.gov doesn't. Between this and the circuitcity.com thing, I think this demonstrates just how long it takes for changes to come to this wonderful shit list that then gets updated on each and every goddamn user's machine when they fucking feel like letting it update. This should motivate your teams even more to keep your site off this fucking list. If it takes up to a year or more for a reasonable percentage of your users to get the updated "we no longer suck" version of the shit list, this makes it even harder for you and your users, who will remain stuck in IE7's suckage for even longer than they should have had to already.

 
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